tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post1262202769011601752..comments2024-01-23T16:53:02.428+00:00Comments on Mark Thompson: Rage Against Simon CowellMark Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-12611807156143597072009-12-21T23:06:52.417+00:002009-12-21T23:06:52.417+00:00More on the charity side: Rage Against The Machine...More on the charity side: Rage Against The Machine have said they will also donate some of their royalties to Shelter. The Facebook Group has raised over £85,000 so farIan Ridleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804460062639661335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-82679295057678214802009-12-19T18:25:32.871+00:002009-12-19T18:25:32.871+00:00I can't get wound up about this either way. Th...I can't get wound up about this either way. That's possibly because I don't like the RATM song - if it had been some song that should have been number one but was kept off by a manufactured mass marketed song then that would be another thing - Ultravox, Vienna comes to mind.<br /><br />As you know I'm the princess of trashy tv but that doesn't mean that I'm blind to the dark arts of the industry. To be honest, I think that reality tv genre is just another way for record companies to manipulate the charts in the way that they always have.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-45203452284451358252009-12-19T15:36:12.411+00:002009-12-19T15:36:12.411+00:00@Alex:
I disagree. I think a personal choice, gras...@Alex:<br />I disagree. I think a personal choice, grass roots campaign like this is something to be celebrated.<br /><br />The network pap that controls so many, on the other hand, is what really should be raged against. Pubs were left empty last weekend while people stayed at home to suck on Cowell's teat, and conversely the high street will be full today as people queue up to buy what he told 'em.<br /><br />Huh!dazberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05011934932914943141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-677889520718735952009-12-18T21:23:14.240+00:002009-12-18T21:23:14.240+00:00I don't think the people who re a part of this...I don't think the people who re a part of this campaign have listened to the lyrics of "Killing in the Name":<br /><br />*"And now you do what they told ya. And now you're under control"<br /><br />*"Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!"<br /><br />The song preaches the exact opposite message to joining a bandwagon such as this.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-15389217958914001362009-12-18T20:27:28.679+00:002009-12-18T20:27:28.679+00:00I like the idea a lot. Im so sick of the bubblegu...I like the idea a lot. Im so sick of the bubblegum pop music with these talentless kids selling music purely based on their image...Miley Cyrus is the name that comes to mind immediately. I hope they make it to #1.rakebackhttp://www.rakebackleader.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-65908703846659828712009-12-18T20:07:38.919+00:002009-12-18T20:07:38.919+00:00Simon Cowell has all the leverage against American...Simon Cowell has all the leverage against American Idol. They know that he is the biggest reason that people tune into watch the show, and without him the ratings would take a tumble. He might just be using all this as a ploy to get more money from the network.john wallhttp://www.johnwallfan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-64843582336543490852009-12-18T15:31:12.722+00:002009-12-18T15:31:12.722+00:00I think this really started last year, with a much...I think this really started last year, with a much more genuine effort to get Jeff Buckley to number one instead of Alexandra Burke. His famous cover of Hallelujah is undeniably excellent, whereas hers was the usual by-the-numbers "here comes the key change, don't forget the high note" type of cover you come to expect from X-Factor contestants. So I think there was a genuine feeling that if any version of that song should go to number one, it should be Buckley's.<br /><br />However, that campaign failed, and so I think this year people just want to prove that it CAN be done, even if it does require a massive concerted effort. I'm not entirely sure why Killing In The Name Of was chosen - I would have thought it would have been better to get one of the famous Christmas tunes on top, so I suppose it's just because whoever started the campaign just went for the first song they could think of with swearing in it.<br /><br />It's a fairly pointless exercise in the grand scheme of things, especially as the charts themselves haven't been of any relevance themselves since at least the 90s as they're essentially what the record companies and music industry as a whole have deemed to be what people should be listening to... But yet, I just know I will be massively disappointed if the campaign fails.<br /><br />It may be a cynical campaign, but then the record industry itself is probably the most cynical aspect of popular culture there is. If it does fail, it shows that no matter what rubbish is put out by the X-Factor, people will buy it. I gave up on the idea of the general public having any semblance of musical taste a long time ago, but it would be heartening to see evidence that they CAN say "no" to the rubbish they are force-fed by the media when they put their minds to it.<br /><br />Personally, I would have chosen Stefan Dennis' 1989 song Don't It Make You Feel Good, which would have been much more hilarious than a good rock tune that will just require a few bits to be bleeped out.Doug Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15017218581660887134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-21814360850363260142009-12-18T11:13:21.345+00:002009-12-18T11:13:21.345+00:00Some good friends of mine had this as their first ...Some good friends of mine had this as their first dance at their wedding. It was hilarious (in a had-to-be-there way) to see them singing it to each other after taking their vows.<br /><br />I've always forgotton to ask them what the song was, so this campaign allowed me to buy a tune I have fond memories of.<br /><br />I bought this and Tim Minchin - White Wine In the Sun at the same time.William Satire (Jr.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07140147505603545988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-30883319590431899082009-12-18T10:52:25.796+00:002009-12-18T10:52:25.796+00:00@Andrew Hinkley
according to the Guardian via the ...@Andrew Hinkley<br />according to the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/dec/17/rage-against-machine-joe-mcelderry?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter" rel="nofollow">Guardian</a> via the 6music interview<br /><i>Morello also said some of the proceeds from the sale of Killing in the Name would go to a UK-based charity called Youth Music, which provides children with access to music education and training. They also said the the homeless charity Shelter would receive some of the profits.</i>Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00751322629733294778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-40193706929338323172009-12-18T10:36:36.963+00:002009-12-18T10:36:36.963+00:00Beowulf - not a penny from the RATM single is goin...Beowulf - not a penny from the RATM single is going to charity (I believe some from the X-Factor single is). The money raised by the Facebook group is the only donation involved.Andrew Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412263807838661843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-12564130538985078602009-12-18T10:25:38.968+00:002009-12-18T10:25:38.968+00:00Do remember that a large amount of money from the ...Do remember that a large amount of money from the RATM single is going to charity - Shelter, I think. The Facebook group has already raised over £12,000 outside of the record sales.Tom Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06389918199710656405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-17196082000402251312009-12-18T10:24:57.412+00:002009-12-18T10:24:57.412+00:00Fair enough Mark. Doing something inoffensive for ...Fair enough Mark. Doing something inoffensive for a laugh is rarely a bad thing and let's be honest, it is an ace tune.<br /><br />It does just seem such a phony war particularly, but not just because, of the Sony link and such a, forgive me, silly, trivial thing to get so passionate about.<br /><br />Each to their own I suppose and perhaps I just need to lighten up but I fear this RATM stuff is making the opium for the masses more potent rather than less.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485196287282298695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-70274505345780503422009-12-18T09:58:07.806+00:002009-12-18T09:58:07.806+00:00I'd love to see RATM at No.1, just for a laugh...I'd love to see RATM at No.1, just for a laugh. Simple as.<br /><br />There are enough fans of X-Factor and the various Simon Cowell shows for this to not matter at all. And with Cowell getting huge exposure (and money) in America, I'm sure this matters even less to him. Regardless of whether or not the campaign's about him, this will only strengthen his presence.<br /><br />Cowell is probably more than happy to put out statements to add fuel to the situation. Why not get all Joe fans to come out in force and buy even more copies of the single too? No matter which song reaches the top spot, the X-Factor brand should remain undamaged.<br /><br />If anything, this chart 'battle' improves the situation. While I haven't heard Joe's song, I keep reading how it's a less exciting affair than previous winner singles. With all this RATM excitement, the song doesn't really matter now. Again, smiles all round.<br /><br />Yes, some statements (and, as you say, strops) are relative nonsense. But it's entertainment and this stuff gets lapped up, with many people feeling involved and passionate.<br /><br />You're right that Cowell is a shrewd businessman, so he'll come back stronger. X-Factor has grown in popularity over six series and doesn't look set to disappear. I don't see this situation as the 'first cut'. He's dealt with controversy in the past and used it to his advantage. Whatever happens, you can be sure he'll turn everything he can into a big fat pile of win.Martin - TheUniversityBloghttp://theuniversityblog.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-24371019252750130692009-12-18T09:28:47.053+00:002009-12-18T09:28:47.053+00:00Why do you care so much who is number 1 in a rando...Why do you care so much who is number 1 in a random chart?<br /><br />I find this RATM stuff absolutely bizarre.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485196287282298695noreply@blogger.com