tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post1625418845225908697..comments2024-01-23T16:53:02.428+00:00Comments on Mark Thompson: 38 Degrees are hypocritesMark Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-26918093025367809972015-04-03T13:18:27.673+01:002015-04-03T13:18:27.673+01:00who is paying for the black NHS hole? UKIP will us...who is paying for the black NHS hole? UKIP will use just some of the money that we don't have to pay the EU, we could also reduce some of the foreign aid doshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-48747278006781965902015-04-03T09:09:19.607+01:002015-04-03T09:09:19.607+01:00£* Degrees are little more than leftie agitators. ...£* Degrees are little more than leftie agitators. Scratch the surface of virtually all similar groups and you'll find a seething mass of politically biased, left wing bed-wtters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-35106529768451524702015-04-03T08:35:21.675+01:002015-04-03T08:35:21.675+01:00Organisationally 38 Degrees are a child of Greenpe...Organisationally 38 Degrees are a child of Greenpeace, funded heavily by groups such qs the Roddick Foundation.<br /><br />Essentially they are spam lobbyists who troll for outrage amongst the gullible, and have had Points of Order raised against them in the Commons for that activity. That activity is a direct inheritance from Greenpeace.<br /><br />They are also routinely dishonest, and I don't think I have ever seen an issue accurately and fully described in their spiel attached to a petition, going back to at least the Save Our Forests stuff.<br /><br />I won't go into claims they make about membership, but it seems to relate to everyone who has ever been on an email list and never made a real fuss to be purged.Matt Wardmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-23925704562630985612015-04-03T05:50:23.843+01:002015-04-03T05:50:23.843+01:00I WROTE THEM A PERSONAL E-MAIL
On 31 March 2015 ...I WROTE THEM A PERSONAL E-MAIL<br /><br /><br />On 31 March 2015 at 23:42<br /><br />Stop sending me this bullshit. You are NOT 'ordinary voters', you are using the NHS for political purposes by spreading falsehoods.<br /><br />I am no fan of Cameron, but his government have not put the NHS in debt......the previous one did - overspending massively, wasting squillions on failed projects and all those PFI facilities that benefitted none but the construction companies that built them.<br /><br />Labour have long tried to monopolize the 'protection of the NHS' as its own baby. Whereas in fact, it has procured nothing but waste, fraud and a huge deterioration in standards that has led to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.<br /><br />Now you - probably funded by Labour - want us, the ordinary citizens let down by Labour's ludicrous mismanagent of the NHS, to campaign against the current government, thereby transferring blame for 20yrs of failure to the Tories.<br /><br />You and your agency are disingenuous in the extreme - typical twenty-first century socialists, you aren't fit to lick Beveridge's boots.<br /><br />Goodbye.<br /><br />HERE'S THEIR REPLY<br /><br />Hi, <br /><br />Thanks for your email. I will ensure that your email address is unsubscribed. This should take effect within 3 days from today, but normally within 24 hours.<br /><br />We’re sorry to be losing you from 38 Degrees but we hope to see you again in the future. You can re-subscribe at any time by participating in any 38 Degrees campaign.<br /><br />Best wishes,<br /><br />Ambar and the 38 Degrees teamJingleballixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978172271720629084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-42963024538087103762015-04-03T04:06:30.862+01:002015-04-03T04:06:30.862+01:00I wondered who 38 Degrees were? They say they are ...I wondered who 38 Degrees were? They say they are a neutral lobbying group determined to protect NHS. They pester me for donations, so now you're telling me this is a Lib Dem group. Surely this must break Electoral Commission rules?Xxzarrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-67957586513630483962015-04-03T03:57:30.471+01:002015-04-03T03:57:30.471+01:00The NHS is an over bloated organisation that has t...The NHS is an over bloated organisation that has too much political interference . You can put as much money as you like into our greatest asset, but as the Labour Party found out in the early 2000's, there are still problems. What it really needs is an 20 year business plan, agreed by all parties, and then stick to it. <br />Xxzarrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-34268088593590779482015-04-03T00:48:50.283+01:002015-04-03T00:48:50.283+01:00Let us remember: The BBC already gets £3.75 Billi...Let us remember: The BBC already gets £3.75 Billion per year, which is more than the NHS, now.<br /><br />Which would you rather have, a quick Dr's appointment or a three-thousandth re-run of Dad's Army, and Eastenders?<br />D-503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-18142756267308144572015-04-02T14:46:29.737+01:002015-04-02T14:46:29.737+01:00And UKIP's bid was £3 billion.
We are to assu...And UKIP's bid was £3 billion.<br /><br />We are to assume that the amount referred to is an annual increase so the annual total after 5 years would be £40 billion a yeat.<br /><br />May we ask who we are to borrow that from?Andrew Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17671242562855245457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-68628781035596533332015-04-02T14:38:29.781+01:002015-04-02T14:38:29.781+01:00That is not what the chart said. It said "Ple...That is not what the chart said. It said "Pledges" and then listed an amount from the Lib Dems that was 4 times lower than the actual amount they had said.<br /><br />If they'd wanted to do a post where they doubted the credibility of the Lib Dem pledge that's fine and I would not have had a problem with that. The Lib Dems have not stuck to all of their pledges in government. That is undeniable and would be fair comment. But they didn't do this. Instead they put the wrong amount in the chart and then despite being called on it many times have not issued a correction at equivalent prominence. That is hypocrisy.<br /><br />I have no agenda. I used to be a Lib Dem but left the party in 2013 and have been plenty critical of them both as a member and now as a non-member. Just look through my blog post history.<br />Mark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-22805801756197220392015-04-02T14:00:25.614+01:002015-04-02T14:00:25.614+01:00To be fair, given the chances of LDs getting any s...To be fair, given the chances of LDs getting any say in the next election any commitment by them is meaningless. They could commit to doubling the budget and eliminating cancer and the common cold and it would make no difference. 38 degrees are actually what the LD's could and should have become to leverage local power for local and national issues. I find your criticism small minded and suspect an agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com