tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post6016033462276156455..comments2024-01-23T16:53:02.428+00:00Comments on Mark Thompson: Nadine Dorries did not get to parliament on the same basis as everyone elseMark Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-44521427008302270542009-10-31T13:05:30.574+00:002009-10-31T13:05:30.574+00:00Now perhaps my memory serves me wrong but I though...Now perhaps my memory serves me wrong but I thought that Mid Bedfordshire Conservatives had to find themselves a candidate at pretty short notice since their (Tory) MP had been censured for some sort of impropriety and had de facto resigned just before the election. Ms Dorries was therefore parachuted in to fill a gap. Whether the selection was 'normal' I can't say but my recollection says it was a rushed job.Richard Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17225331967587897653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-55722123222300509352009-10-27T15:50:25.619+00:002009-10-27T15:50:25.619+00:00I know the quote is about her selection but I am i...I know the quote is about her selection but I am interesting in the specific bit: "I got here by exactly the same process that they did.". She is referring to parliament. It is not me that is conflating the two things (selection and election) it is Nadine that is doing it.<br /><br />It betrays the truth that she knows full well it was the selection that gave her her seat, not the election. This is my point. She is in a safe seat.Mark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-34317258964645329332009-10-27T15:16:30.532+00:002009-10-27T15:16:30.532+00:00The quote you've given from Nadine is about he...The quote you've given from Nadine is about her selection. The point of her blog post is that she was selected without preference. It's in the context of a debate about all-women shortlists. <br /><br />Sure FPP is unfair, but that's a different debate, and a different blog post.Ian Eiloarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09077214178991724266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-66837821805295176752009-10-27T10:39:22.676+00:002009-10-27T10:39:22.676+00:00THBW - That's as maybe but you can bet your li...THBW - That's as maybe but you can bet your life that's what she's worrying about. What her constituency association thinks. Not what the voters of Mid Bedfordshire think.Mark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-29607810999651842932009-10-27T10:34:43.823+00:002009-10-27T10:34:43.823+00:00"Nadine realistically, as long as she can kee..."Nadine realistically, as long as she can keep her local association sweet can remain the MP for Mid Bedfordshire as long as she likes."<br /><br />She's not doing so well on that one at present though, is she? I gather they were quite cross with her over expenses, witch-hunts and others...The Half-Blood Welshmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05072936624444891100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-4540141873003838902009-10-27T10:16:24.986+00:002009-10-27T10:16:24.986+00:00Stu - I am well aware of what she means; she is al...Stu - I am well aware of what she means; she is all but admitting that the important bit is the selection given that that is what she is talking about when she says she "got here".<br /><br />I am simply pointing about that "getting there" for some MPs is more than just getting selected, it's actually winning the election whereas for Nadine it was basically a foregone conclusion.<br /><br />Her comments actually betray a view I suspect is prevelant amongst many MPs in safe seats.Mark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-80514775562789362352009-10-27T10:10:37.935+00:002009-10-27T10:10:37.935+00:00Dunno, seems to me that her point is actually quit...Dunno, seems to me that her point is actually quite valid - she didn't receive special advantage (that she was aware of) on the basis of being a women. There's plenty of men in safe seats too, you know.<br /><br />You seem to be conflating two separate issues here. She's saying she arrived in the Commons by the same process as the men did, without the gender-specific help of an all-woman shortlist. You're complaining because she sat in a safe seat. The one point doesn't really reflect on the other at all.<br /><br />Unity does point out that it seems CCHQ leaned on the constituency office to select a woman, which would put the balance in her favour (along with the other women who were up for selection) but it's not clear that Nadine would have been involved or even aware of that going on.<br /><br />Much as I'm not a Nadine fan, it feels like her words are being pretty twisted here.Stuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07315721343398529214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-51575377905113493512009-10-27T10:02:33.472+00:002009-10-27T10:02:33.472+00:00Nadine's "work" started with lifelon...Nadine's "work" started with lifelong CV massaging. Raving Mythomania. She seems to have told fibs for fun - or rather personal advancement - throughout her "working" life. She is riding for a fall. But how bad would that have to be for Mid Beds Cons to oust her? And would Dave Cam have the balls to get rid?Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-2259253269467511112009-10-27T10:01:44.126+00:002009-10-27T10:01:44.126+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-26393743651787078742009-10-27T09:41:56.377+00:002009-10-27T09:41:56.377+00:00Here's the thing: Does she not know that she g...Here's the thing: Does she not know that she got special treatment and is deluding herself (again), or does she honestly believe that she got there by her own hard work?devolutehttp://www.devolute.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-11415393598368416552009-10-27T09:34:34.189+00:002009-10-27T09:34:34.189+00:00You mean the people of Mid Beds do not have a par...You mean the people of Mid Beds do not have a <i>particular</i> preference for garrulous self serving & obsessed women?<br /><br />Mid Beds be praised!Quietzapplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15422598703061456846noreply@blogger.com