tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post4050472338870909113..comments2024-01-23T16:53:02.428+00:00Comments on Mark Thompson: The cannabis/IQ research shows why it should be legalised and regulatedMark Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-31487679773489592782012-12-27T06:36:20.967+00:002012-12-27T06:36:20.967+00:00Most people today are lacking the REAL NEWS in thi...Most people today are lacking the REAL NEWS in this tale. The statement displays that cannabis or <a href="http://www.legalherbalonline.com/" rel="nofollow">spice incense</a> can be dangerous to children but this is not news. It just stands for what we already know. The REAL NEWS is that Professor Terrie Moffitt, of the Institute of Psychiatry at King’s College London, has said, unequivocally, that: "...cannabis is safe for over-18 brains".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00283609306720492385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-69808349920605996662012-08-29T10:11:06.296+01:002012-08-29T10:11:06.296+01:00If you worked with young people you would know tha...If you worked with young people you would know that minimum ages for buying alcohol and tobacco was also ineffective in stopping them from drinking and smoking (even without parental consent). If they think it's 'cool' and want it, they will find a way. However, I do not think this diminishes the argument to make it illegal. It's bad for them and it's right to say "You should not do this".<br /><br />Secondly, your argument that they've been stupid and made themselves stupider so the law should give them a break is preposterous! Most criminals are stupid, I mean of below average IQ, but that doesn't mean we should let them roam the streets out of pity.<br /><br />I do agree that the current legislation for tobacco, alcohol and drugs in general, especially in relation to minors, needs a radical overhaul because it simply does not protect those at most risk. But I expect we'd disagree on how that should look like ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08423451533988754862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-46130667584334104082012-08-29T09:10:00.028+01:002012-08-29T09:10:00.028+01:00I suppose if a young person has taken cannabis and...I suppose if a young person has taken cannabis and suffers from lowered IQ they will suffer a lifetime of shattered dreams and limited choices. Probably end up joining the Lib Dems.Nothing Better To Donoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-79042265569451884932012-08-28T20:21:56.917+01:002012-08-28T20:21:56.917+01:00I'd like to summarize the issue with legalizat...I'd like to summarize the issue with legalization as follows (pardon my English, it's not my native language):<br /><br />The research was conducted on people who started using cannabis at early age and have continued to use it ever since.<br /><br />This has happened during prohibition: while cannabis and its production, sale and use have been illegal.<br /><br />Therefore, prohibition has not been able to stop young people from using cannabis. Otherwise the research could not have been conducted at all.<br /><br />So, how prohibition could be any solution to a problem that it has not been able to prevent in the first place?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-76464325822606761242012-08-28T20:09:33.903+01:002012-08-28T20:09:33.903+01:00I think one of the most salient facts that no-body...I think one of the most salient facts that no-body seems to be picking up on here, is that the study from New Zealand shows a "lowering of IQ". Why has everybody blithely accepted the IQ test as a valid indicator of intelligence? You cannot measure intelligence, so how can you measure it? They used to be all about pattern recognition, and in the past have been shown to be both gender and culturally biased. It's absolute rubbish to rely on these tests, yet because it seems to confirm what we suspected (ie Stoners lose brain cells) we have all just accepted this rubbish. If it wasn't so convenient for the media and their reactionary rhetoric over drugs/drug use, it would get laughed out the door. I think they used 1000 kids in the study, so what percentage of them were regular users? How big was the control group? Was the "decline" trend normal for a group this size? What type of IQ test was used? How many people used cannabis alone? NOt one news report has any of this info, so what are we to make of this study, before blindly accepting what it says because some scientist says so? We shouldn't even be discussing the conclusions of this report!Rohanhttp://twitter.com/arrgeekaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-22850634795237782042012-08-28T19:51:15.957+01:002012-08-28T19:51:15.957+01:00Teratogenicity? You say that as if it's a bad ...Teratogenicity? You say that as if it's a bad thing. My God how briliant, all I have to do to avoid getting my girlfriend pregnant, is smoke a whole lot of weed... It certainly sweetens the deal. <br /><br />Why didn't anyone come up with a contraceptive based on Cannabis? I bet Big Pharma will be on the case as soon as they realize the potential. Anyway, why bother, people can just continue to smoke it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-58214517757687813552012-08-28T19:34:30.062+01:002012-08-28T19:34:30.062+01:00Most people are missing the REAL NEWS in this sto...<br />Most people are missing the REAL NEWS in this story. The report shows that cannabis can be harmful to children but this is not news. It just reinforces what we already know. The REAL NEWS is that Professor Terrie Moffitt, of the Institute of Psychiatry at King’s College London, has said, unequivocally, that: "...cannabis is safe for over-18 brains".<br /><br />This is the REAL NEWS!Peter Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17531011269546393362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-13084507285479610002012-08-28T18:42:29.051+01:002012-08-28T18:42:29.051+01:00Also, if legalised people would have a greater cho...Also, if legalised people would have a greater choice in what types of cannabis they buy. Most people have no choice but to buy skunk if they enjoy cannabis.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-22684702647189087122012-08-28T18:22:35.411+01:002012-08-28T18:22:35.411+01:00@Anonymous: I'm not saying cannabis has no oth...@Anonymous: I'm not saying cannabis has no other harms but this is the critical one that so often seems to be the "clinching argument". And it is only really relevant to children. The other harms are no worse than those inflicted by alcohol which is perfectly legal for over 18s. And if teratogenicity is a major problem with cannabis then let's have an information campaign to inform pregnant women (and those planning to conceive) like we do with alcohol. It's not a reason to ban it completely for everyone on pain of imprisonment.<br /><br />Cannabis is already highly desirable for young people precisely because it is illegal. The misinformation put out by the government is woeful and treated as such by kids who are much more switched on to the real risks in many cases than the government gives them credit for. Were they given credible information backed by proper scientific studies then they are more likely to take it seriously.<br /><br />As for your final point, it seems somewhat irrelevant. You are essentially saying that there is a political consensus against what I am saying so I should just shut up. The only way blinkered thinking at the top like this is ever changed is for it to be challenged with reasoned argument and evidence. If that means I am not "getting real" according to your yardstick then so be it.<br />Mark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744387583593537268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-89994024376307856952012-08-28T17:47:04.514+01:002012-08-28T17:47:04.514+01:00A pretty stupid blog post, firstly cannabis is ter...A pretty stupid blog post, firstly cannabis is teratogenic and has many other harms apart from lowering IQ.<br /><br />Secondly legalisation for adults would create a "desireable adult behaviour" as far as vulnerable youngsters are concerned. It would INCREASE the attractions of cannabis for the young and impressionable and increasingly normalise use.<br /><br />Get real, legalisation is just not going to happen in the UkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881762807913180318.post-596536438889515152012-08-28T12:40:06.733+01:002012-08-28T12:40:06.733+01:00In total agreement with you Mark. As you say, ther...In total agreement with you Mark. As you say, there is no incentive for a dealer to check for ID. why should he - what he does is illegal anyway?<br /><br />To put it another way, the minimum age to buy a prohibited drug is £10.Harry McCullanoreply@blogger.com