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Thursday, 17 February 2011

How a campaign against women's votes could look today #Yes2AV

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Anonymous said...

What a load of cobwash; we're talking about a change in an electoral system, not the right of half the population to actually vote.

The word slanderous springs to mind.

Wigarse said...

Way to miss the point anonymous.

In any case, we are talking about reforming a voting system that means currently, while we all get to vote, less than 2% of us are lucky enough to have a vote that means anything.

I'd argue that changing to a voting system that make the other 98% real instead of lip service votesis as important or more so than woman's suffrage.

Gregg said...

I support AV but think this is probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen concerning May 5th.

Sadly it's another example of a Lib Dem having no sense of perspective.

Darren said...

@Gregg, it is possible that it is you who has no perspective.

Whether or not women's suffrage is of comparable magnitude to proportional representation is irrelevant. This is a joke which uses an extreme form of the rhetoric of the No2AV campaign to satirise the attempt being made to derail AV on spurious cost grounds.

There's nothing either unusual or ridiculous in that.

Anonymous said...

Wait, what? Women can vote now? This is an outrage!

Anonymous said...

Wow, maybe if we didn't participate in illegal wars at great expense we might not have a bad a deficit as we do.

Anonymous said...

AV means more women candidates and more people voting for women candidates - so there IS a link with the Votes for Women issue

Anonymous said...

The point, Anonymous, is that "...but soldiers need bullet-proof vests" is not an argument against changing the voting system.

It makes no sense as an argument against votes for women, and it makes no sense either as an argument against AV.

Anonymous said...

How many bullet proof vests does he need exactly?

Keith said...

Fascinating - the No2AV campaign is registered by Charlotte Vere:

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Registrant Name:Charlotte Vere
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She was the Conservative candidate for Brighton Pavilion, Caroline Lucas' constituency. Presumably she reckons that with AV she stands no chance of getting in next time, but with FPTP she might get in. No self-interest there then :-)

Anyway, none of this really matters - all governments are run by corporations. Hmm, one way of finding out if AV is a threat to the elites is to see where the corporate money is going. Time for a bit more research...

Michael said...

This is another example of the blatant trivialisation of the AV campaign by both sides, which is putting people off.

A message to both sides:

Have something credible and informative to say, or shut up!


Darzil said...

Current system : Most popular candidate gets elected.

Proposed system : Most popular candidate gets elected if a majority don't hate them.

Isn't it that simple ?

Baphomet said...

The No2AV campaign really is shameless. Trying to link AV to these incredibly emotive topics... I would laugh if it didn't make me feel a little sick.

Hugh said...

Fair play to Mr Elliott of the Taxpayers Alliance.  His gut instinct must be to have a picture of the CEO of RBS lighting a cigar with a £50 note with the caption 'What he needs is top rate tax back to 40%, not AV.'. But instead he's put aside his own feelings and suggested that we need maternity units on every street corner, and more home helps and coppers.  Bravo, sir!  I just hope the TPA don't find out.